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1. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Glen Robinson Sep 14, 2016 3:46 AM (in response to Ivan Monnier)2 of 2 people found this helpfulHi Ivan
The answer is natively; No.
Tableau Server will complain that you do not have sufficient licensing, and not work.
Your option is to then go into you Windows Msconfig, and then limit the number of cores being shown. (A reboot is required)
Windows will then display 8 cores (or whatever) and Tableau Server will work
I dont know if there is a performance overhead doing this.
You could also try going into the BIOS of the Windows Server and disabling a CPU. (fi you have multiple CPUs)
So for example, if you had a 2 x CPU server with 8 cores per server, disabling one of the CPUs will limit you to 8 cores.
Hope this helps
Glen
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2. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Ivan Monnier Sep 14, 2016 4:36 AM (in response to Glen Robinson)Hello Glen,
this is not really the answer that I was expecting...
It's too bad that there is no limitation system of the cores used by Tableau Server, as it exists on other softs.
I have another problem with this: my current server has 2 CPUs of 6 cores each. If I follow your logic, I will have to decrease the power of my server in order to install a 8-core license, or pruchase a more expensive license (Re: Tabelau server core based license CPU count ).
This really is not fair.
Thank you for your reply.
Ivan
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3. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Glen Robinson Sep 14, 2016 4:41 AM (in response to Ivan Monnier)Hi Ivan
If you take the first approach of limiting the core count within Windows does this not give you the option of selecting 8 core?
Instead of disabling one of the CPUs?
regards
Glen
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4. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Damien Lesage Sep 14, 2016 4:45 AM (in response to Ivan Monnier)We also wish that Tableau would provide a solution for that. It's really something that is blocking us to scale-out.
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5. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Ivan Monnier Sep 14, 2016 4:49 AM (in response to Glen Robinson) -
6. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Glen Robinson Sep 14, 2016 4:52 AM (in response to Ivan Monnier)That sounds like it will work.
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7. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Ivan Monnier Sep 14, 2016 5:01 AM (in response to Glen Robinson)I will have to wait for my company to buy the licenses to chack that it works or not, and in production
If anybody can test, I will be very happy.
I created an idea for that, spread the news
https://community.tableau.com/ideas/6652
Ivan
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8. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Jeff StraussSep 14, 2016 6:50 AM (in response to Ivan Monnier)
1 of 1 people found this helpfulTableau counts the # of active cores prior to hyperthreading. So in our case, we have a 24 core license and we split this between 3 worker nodes (8 cores each). And then we have hyperthreading enabled, so it looks like 16 cores each, but really it's 8.
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9. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Toby ErksonSep 14, 2016 8:55 AM (in response to Ivan Monnier)
I just spoke with my wife about this. She was a server and mobile technology validation engineer for a major computer chip manufacturer. She said as far as she knew that software (Tableau Server software install in this example) wouldn't be able to easily change the number of cores unless it modified the chip's BIOS, reducing the available cores there.
Having more cores than licenses isn't what I would consider a common issue but it's readily rectified by changing the BIOS, nothing to get heartburn over.
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10. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Matt ColesSep 14, 2016 9:08 AM (in response to Ivan Monnier)
Another possibility is to create a Virtual Machine on your box that reserves 8 cores for itself, and install Tableau Server on that. When it's time to scale out, you can reserve the additional 8 so that your VM is consuming all resources on the server. Or alternatively, set Tableau Server up on the physical host at that point, backup and restore Tableau Server to it, then delete the old VM. Bit of an administrative headache but it avoids you having to pay for the 16-core license.
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11. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Toby ErksonSep 14, 2016 9:19 AM (in response to Toby Erkson)
My wife just called me back and mentioned what Glen suggested as a valid option. Tableau would be able to program that into their code if they wanted. Another option is to go into the Task Manager and change the CPU Affinity for each process (my note: Not recommended, too many processes to deal with!)
I still think Glen's suggestion or mine (BIOS change) are your two best options. I know with the BIOS change it would be 'permanent' even during reboots until it was manually changed at a later date.
She also sighed and said that not using those other CPUs is a big waste of resources and thus money. Love that woman!
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12. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Jeff StraussSep 14, 2016 9:22 AM (in response to Toby Erkson)
we turn off CPU's via the BIOS (to conform to licensing), and it works. Though I do agree with the misses sigh.
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13. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Juracy Americo Sep 14, 2016 9:23 AM (in response to Toby Erkson)Lol, thank you Toby and Wife.
Good to know
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14. Re: Can a 8-core License work on a 16-core server?
Matt ColesSep 14, 2016 9:24 AM (in response to Toby Erkson)
Extra CPU cycles on a corporate box you don't pay for? I smell a Bitcoin mining opportunity!